{"id":192,"date":"2018-06-01T20:36:23","date_gmt":"2018-06-01T20:36:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/?p=192"},"modified":"2018-06-01T20:36:23","modified_gmt":"2018-06-01T20:36:23","slug":"are-chinese-saxophones-any-good-part-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/2018\/06\/are-chinese-saxophones-any-good-part-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Are Chinese Saxophones any good &#8211; part 2"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I took a bit of a gamble the other week, and bought a cheap (probably Chinese) saxophone on Amazon for about \u00a3200.<\/p>\n<p>From what I&#8217;ve read recently, the quality of instruments coming out of China has been improving all the time. (See, for example, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/2017\/10\/are-chinese-saxophones-any-good\/\">my previous article on Chinese saxophones<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.shwoodwind.co.uk\/Reviews\/Saxes\/Alto\/Chinese_alto.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Stephen Howard&#8217;s article<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve had my eye on a coloured Alto for a while, and finally decided to go for it when I saw this black-and-gold model on Amazon for a shade under \u00a3200. At the price, even if it only lasts 5 years, I figured it would be a better investment than a games console!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Cheap-amazon-Eb-sax.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-197 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Cheap-amazon-Eb-sax-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"Cheap-amazon-Eb-sax\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Cheap-amazon-Eb-sax-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Cheap-amazon-Eb-sax-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/Cheap-amazon-Eb-sax.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Unboxing the sax, I was surprised how heavy it was &#8211; clearly they haven&#8217;t skimped in metal on the body of the horn. I wasn&#8217;t able to tell if this was a particularly heavy horn, as I don&#8217;t have another alto to compare it to.<\/p>\n<p>There were some slight sharp edges here and there &#8211; probably edges from machining that haven&#8217;t been eased off with a file (a task that would no doubt increase the price). Nothing to scratch you, but perhaps a bit uncomfortable.<\/p>\n<p>The paintwork was a bit tacky (sticky) when I first unboxed the sax. This may have been caused by not leaving it long enough to dry before packaging for sale (maybe another cost reduction). I think this could be solved by letting it &#8216;cure&#8217; in front of a radiator for a week or so, or it might have been because it was left in a cold place during transit.<\/p>\n<p>After I assembled the sax, I was able to play it. Being used to a tenor, I found the fingering was a little close, but assume this is normal for an alto. But when I tested its tuning against a tuner, I found it was in D rather than E\u266d. This is, apparently, a known problem on new saxophones where the cork is a bit thick and can be addressed with a bit of sandpaper (see <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/S9dlVNSmVVE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">this great video by Nigel McGill<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p>A bit of cork grease allowed me to put the mouthpiece a bit further on, but it was still about a 1\/4 tone too flat. <strong>Warning!<\/strong> Don&#8217;t push the mouthpiece on too hard, or you&#8217;ll crack it, and then you&#8217;ll have to buy a new mouthpiece sooner than you&#8217;d planned!<\/p>\n<p>A few days later, I was practicing A-major scales, and discovered that the C\u266f was about a 1\/4 tone flat relative to where it should be, and not a semitone apart from C or D. This, I thought, was a much more significant issue, and can&#8217;t be easily fixed.<\/p>\n<p>I was able to return the sax, as I&#8217;d bought it from Amazon (I would probably have had more difficulty if I&#8217;d used a different online provider) and I hadn&#8217;t yet attacked the neck cork with sand paper.<\/p>\n<p>I should point out that my experience here may not be typical of other Chinese saxophones. It could be that this was a specific &#8220;bought online&#8221; issue rather than  a problem with Chinese saxophones in general. After all, as a friend pointed out, iPhones are made in China, so the machining must be reasonable! I notice that <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sax.co.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">sax.co.uk<\/a> sell a Sakkusi for around the \u00a3300 mark; if they&#8217;re putting that on their website, it must be OK!<\/p>\n<p>In conclusion, I would advise that you play a saxophone before you buy it (which means visiting a music shop, trying some out.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update<\/strong>: A few weeks later, went down to sax.co.uk and bought an Alto for around \u00a3750, which I&#8217;m very happy with. I recollect it feeling lighter to pick up, there were no sharp edges, the paintwork was properly dry, it was in tune with itself <sup>[1]<\/sup>, but I still needed to sand a smidgen off the cork to get it in tune with the tuner. <\/p>\n<p>[1]: Jay Metcalf has a great video about <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/P1RQi6YG1Xg\" target=\"_blank\"rel=\"noopener\">Playing In Tune<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I took a bit of a gamble the other week, and bought a cheap (probably Chinese) saxophone on Amazon for about \u00a3200. From what I&#8217;ve read recently, the quality of instruments coming out of China has been improving all the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/2018\/06\/are-chinese-saxophones-any-good-part-2\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[1],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/192"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=192"}],"version-history":[{"count":14,"href":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/192\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":223,"href":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/192\/revisions\/223"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=192"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=192"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.wis.co.uk\/sax\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=192"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}